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chudezee · #31 (**permalink**) September 14th, 2011

He is to careful when throwing and to careless when in the pocket...I believe he has the most fumbles of any QB the last five years..... And Monday night we saw another one. It's not like it was some huge hit either. Pocket collapsed and dumb ass still fumbled. I don't trust him.

Del · #32 (**permalink**) September 14th, 2011

Bottom line, the dude can throw the ball; With these weapons we have, all we need is a capable guy to get them the ball. He has really good games stat wise and I think cuz this isn't one of those, you think he played bad, or is regressing, but he's not.

Big Daddy · #33 (**permalink**) September 14th, 2011

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Originally Posted by R8ers4evr

i agree with DR... and if im not mistaken that 12yrd run came when we NEEDED a 1st down to not punt the ball. got that 1st down we NEEDED. so how u gonna try n take away his best run in crunch time...

anyways. campbell had happy feet. almost reminded me of aaron brooks a little... a little... woulda had more yards if DHB dint have a lil hop, skip, jump and basket catch outta bounds. BUT, honestly, id take orton over campbell. campbell seemed scared out there and if you read all the official reviews, he had 1 pass longer than 9 yards completed (i kno i just said the one is DHB's fault), but unless mcfadden goes off EVERY week, or jacoby takes over a game (see chiefs last year), i dont see us winning against a good run stopping defense.

and whoever said we should trade bush... uhh u really want mcfadden getting those late runs where defenses are being dirty and all that stuff.. plus using a big back grinding those yards, when a defense is beat up, a big bruising back is what we need. id rather bush in there than a rookie for a winded dmc late in games... taiwan is a good change of pace, could develop into more... but i cant see him carring bush's load yet... and bush could get franchised next year... but al davis really likes him so the beat writers say, and when was the last time al davis loved, got away? if u say nnamdi ur full of shit. cuz al davis never even made an offer to him this past offseason. 3 years ago when lechler and aso where FA's every1 said we'd lose one... we kept both and didnt need to use our franchise tag... i think?? so i think bush is gonna be here for another few season... could be wrong though...

but who truly cares... we won. we are F#$$ING 1 AND 0!!!!!!
tied for the division lead... almost alone at the top if d.mcnabb could do ANYTHING... lol...

I agree with DR also but he does not play to his potential. I think he has a ton of talent but he did not play up to it. Yes he he had a gain of 12 and 10 yards to put the game away but other than that he did next to nothing. I was just saying he did not have the type of game he should have had against the donkeys.

Now for me saying we should look at options in trading Bush. We have no idea what Al will do this off season. The following players are FAs at the end of the year.

Jason Campbell
Tyvon Branch
Samson Sateele
Barnes
Chaz Schilens
Michael Bush

Yes off this list Bush is the only one that deserves to be Franchised but who would have known that Wimbley was going to be franchised the past off season instead of Miller??? I was just saying there are plenty of teams that want Bush. Why not try to get something in return for him if Al decides to go a different route and franchise somebody else. We do have Rock Cartright to come in and take some carries for DMac for those hard yards. I just don't want to lose him and having nothing to show for him.

chudezee · #34 (**permalink**) September 14th, 2011

I don't think he's regressed, I just think he wont progress.. he's going to have one or two good games this year,but he'll have more than his share of these type of games. He didn't lose us the game, we'll quire honestly he almost did with that fumble, and if it weren't for the int and a record long kick by jano we may have lost it. I'M GLAD WE WON, but with these types of games the leash shouldn't be to long. Guy has been around 7 years....he's a black Alex Smith.... Maybe that's why they cut Edwards, because that type of performance is going to get him booed out of the coliseum. And by week 4 fans would be screaming for a change at QB.

Ronin · #35 (**permalink**) September 14th, 2011

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Originally Posted by Big Daddy

I agree with DR also but he does not play to his potential. I think he has a ton of talent but he did not play up to it. Yes he he had a gain of 12 and 10 yards to put the game away but other than that he did next to nothing. I was just saying he did not have the type of game he should have had against the donkeys.

Now for me saying we should look at options in trading Bush. We have no idea what Al will do this off season. The following players are FAs at the end of the year.

Jason Campbell
Tyvon Branch
Samson Sateele
Barnes
Chaz Schilens
Michael Bush

Yes off this list Bush is the only one that deserves to be Franchised but who would have known that Wimbley was going to be franchised the past off season instead of Miller??? I was just saying there are plenty of teams that want Bush. Why not try to get something in return for him if Al decides to go a different route and franchise somebody else. We do have Rock Cartright to come in and take some carries for DMac for those hard yards. I just don't want to lose him and having nothing to show for him.

Same thing can be said for DMAC (Who will be a UFA next year). Bush would be cheaper to keep and we would get more for DMAC. Cartright could not get the yards anymore, just look at his YPC for past two years. He is just a ST player.

Mobflash · #36 (**permalink**) September 14th, 2011

Raiders won thank goodness!

DeadRinger · #37 (**permalink**) September 14th, 2011

Here's my take on Campbell. He was mediocre in the game. But I believe he's better than he played on Monday. I remember last season he was choking it up at first (and I was getting real pissed). I believe Hue had a talk with him and told him to start trusting himself more and cutting the ball loose. Campbell improved.

I think Campbell needs another one of those talks. He needs to be reminded that he's an NFL QB. This ain't college anymore where your receivers are going to get 5 yards of separation. That just doesn't happen unless someone blows the coverage and you obviously can't count on that happening much.

He's going to have to trust himself to fit the ball into tighter windows. I think he proved last year that he's capable of doing that.

I also think Hue should adjust his play calling a bit for JC. JC's just not going to float a lot of balls over a receiver's shoulder down the sideline or the seam on go routes. He doesn't have that kind of touch. But he works very well with the angled routes and we need to call those 95% of the time.

So all in all I think JC needs to help himself a little and the coaches need to help him a little as well. If those things happen I think we'll see better things from him on the field.

For what it's worth, I do believe we can get to the playoffs with JC, possibly even this year. But the SB? I seriously doubt that will ever happen for him.

Big Daddy · #38 (**permalink**) September 15th, 2011

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Originally Posted by Ronin

Same thing can be said for DMAC (Who will be a UFA next year). Bush would be cheaper to keep and we would get more for DMAC. Cartright could not get the yards anymore, just look at his YPC for past two years. He is just a ST player.

There is no way in hell I would keep Bush over Mcfadden. If DMac is on his last year of his contract we all know who will get franchised, at least I think we know. I understand what your saying about Cartright but I would only have him carry about 10-12 times a game any ways.

ONENATION · #39 (**permalink**) September 15th, 2011

Del I dont know what you are smoking but Campbell BLOWS!!! The guy throws an ugly ball when the has the balls to throw a pass over 10 yards. He also holds onto the fucking ball too long with our suspect O line. The guy takes too fucking long to read the defense and then cant deliver an accurate pass. Our recievers are so much better then they have been over the past few years but he can not get them the ball. No he didnt cost us the game against the Broncos but we are not going to be able to live week in and week out as a one dimensional offense especially if we face a team thats worth a shit at stopping the run or our RB's have an off day. I hope you are right and he was just playin possum and can get the rock to the WR's when it counts but I dont think so.

Del · #40 (**permalink**) September 16th, 2011

We'll see. That's all, we'll see.

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